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What turbo's would you upgrade to if you had to upgrade??
Me personally, i'd go DR650's or somethig big for a little extra cash over the 15G's.
Before i was set on upgrading to 15G's, but then after thinking about it, why not go a few extra dollars and get something bigger.
My goals are a little more modest :)
13G's on a good fuel system would be fine for me....
14 b's. hmmm yep, little bittof modding but when i wanna do it it will prolly be easier!
turbosarebetter
05-08-03, 05:32 PM
When I switch turbos again a little down the raod I think I'll go all out and get some 16g's and new exhaust manifolds. If you ever have the turbos off theses cars and take the time to look at the design of the manifold it is total shit.
Fast Eddie
05-15-03, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by BigBoi
14 b's. hmmm yep, little bittof modding but when i wanna do it it will prolly be easier!
I think that is a good idea too, but just the adaptor plates are $600 US!:eek: All that is, is a CNC'd hunk of ... well prob 304 stainless. Those could be mass produced for no more than $45 each. Once you have the programming set, you just drop a peice of steel in, press the 'start' button, and walk away. :( Thats nearly $1000 canadian! The savings comes from the turbos. used 14b's are like $200 on e-bay.
Originally posted by Fast Eddie
I think that is a good idea too, but just the adaptor plates are $600 US!:eek: All that is, is a CNC'd hunk of ... well prob 304 stainless. Those could be mass produced for no more than $45 each. Once you have the programming set, you just drop a peice of steel in, press the 'start' button, and walk away. :( Thats nearly $1000 canadian! The savings comes from the turbos. used 14b's are like $200 on e-bay.
Just wait ti'll Marc (fou) is completly finnished with his 14b kit, hehe. It's gona be alot cheaper. I saw the prototype in person when i was there, EXCELENT job, looks GREAT.
memystealthandi
05-15-03, 07:12 PM
13g's or 14b's.
I'd even be happy with the 9b/13g combo.
-R
Fast Eddie
05-15-03, 11:37 PM
13g's bolt right up to our current exhaust manifolds. Thats what Crazykid did to his car. what we are talking about is adaptor plates, or Fou's entire manifolds that can hook up to 14, 16 or even 20's. this means that instead of the three bolt flange that we have now (9b, 13g) we can go to the bigger DSM turbos with a four bolt flange , which can be found used for super-cheap. :)
DSM Power
05-16-03, 12:13 AM
I'd sell you my T25 but that's like a downgrade. :rolleyes: :p
Originally posted by Fast Eddie
13g's bolt right up to our current exhaust manifolds. Thats what Crazykid did to his car.
Well, 13g's from a dsm don't quite just bolt up. It is more you have to open up both the 9b and the 13g and make a new turbo. There is some simple modification, but not too much.
Fast Eddie
05-16-03, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by Malice
Well, 13g's from a dsm don't quite just bolt up. It is more you have to open up both the 9b and the 13g and make a new turbo. There is some simple modification, but not too much.
Very true. I didnt mean it as an instruction though, just the fact that there is a huge install difference between the 13 and 14, to answer memystealthandi's question...
I had actually forgotten that part. You keep the 9b turbine housing and swap out the cartridge and compressor side right? And one housing you have to rotate 180deg. too i believe. Havent done it myself, but supposed to be a single days work
Originally posted by Fast Eddie
You keep the 9b turbine housing and swap out the cartridge and compressor side right? And one housing you have to rotate 180deg. too i believe. Havent done it myself, but supposed to be a single days work
Pretty much. You also have to drill a small hole in the compressor wheel for oil lubrication as the DSM one is on the wrong side.
Domesticwildric
05-20-03, 05:16 PM
Since I have no choice but to upgrade now...because my stock turbos bit the dust...Which is the Cheapest bang for your buck?...I am going to buy some in the next week...I was thinking of 13g's.....Is there losts of required modification to make the dsm turbos fit?
Fast Eddie
05-20-03, 05:21 PM
Remember that bigger turbos require more fuel. Meaning new fuel pump, 6 larger fuel injectors, and a fuel controller/engine management system. I suppose you could put on the new turbos and just keep the boost turned down, until you get all the fuel stuff.
A proper budget turbo/fuel upgrade to me would be:
13g's - $1700
DSM 450 injectors - $150
walbro 255 High Pressure fuel pump - $150
SAFC-II - $550
That would about cover everything you would require for about $2500 canadian. You maybe able to do it cheaper if you shop around or buy a used SAFC-I or some used turbo's from a member, or buy having the 9b's rebuilt with 13g intake compressors in them. But for virtually new parts, that is about the cost I have down.
Fast Eddie
05-20-03, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by Malice
A proper budget turbo/fuel upgrade to me would be:
13g's - $1700
DSM 450 injectors - $150
walbro 255 High Pressure fuel pump - $150
You can pick up the fuel pump for under a hundred bucks at some places.
http://www.importevolution.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=33
I was including the $$ conversion in my estimates :)
Scott_93TT
05-21-03, 07:34 AM
DR650's. :D
I'd be happy with low 11's.
Plus, I don't have anywhere to work on my car, so I want something that is a little more "set and forget" than going the adapter plate, DSM turbo route...
I'd just like to do the fuel, injectors, SAFC, etc. and go...
To reply at the question that Crazey ask, I’m going with TD-05’s.
Sorry for not replying sooner.
As soon as I’m done with SpeedFreakSteve car, I’m back on the headers/pre-cat eliminators.
Don’t worry, I’m not making adapter plate’s, I’m replacing the stock manifolds by a pair of custom build SS headers and replacing the pre-cat by a set of SS pre-cat eliminator.
From the Head of the motor to the stock DP it should be a direct bolt on, this way for the one that have a custom DP, you won’t need to change it and I won’t need to make one (DP that is).
The only mod you will need to do is rotate the compressor wheel on the DT-05, connect the coolant lines, the oil line (in and out) and the IC hoses.
For more information go to DT05 Headers (http://forum.canada3si.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89)
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