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Old 09-26-11, 12:07 PM   #61
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Hopefully see you at the track on Friday. Good luck getting those last few things cleared up for what is likely the last race weekend of the season.
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Old 09-26-11, 06:27 PM   #62
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so last night after coming home i went out to finish my tune for the stock clutch in prep for the track.
smelling fuel in the cabin but there is no leak in any of my lines. im thinking it might be the pump hanger gasket.

anyways the tune:
14psi, 10.5 AFR, 15deg timing across the board seems to be the limit. 315cc of 50/50 meth/water full blast 6psi onwards. hitting 80% IDC. anything more and it slips like no tomorrow. evoscan says i picked up about 40whp compared to before after i finished. my timing map however switched to the lower one instead of the preferred one in the ecu so gotta reset that.

some notes&things i noticed,
back to back runs made knock come up due to heat soak. looks like these dsm sidemounts arent that much of an improvement after all. oh well.
timing retard due to knock kills power tremendously. more timing &less boost made way more power than the other way around. tuning on the brink of 1/2 count knock makes really good power too. leaning on the lower RPM, and having my lo/hi point set at 25&40% helped alot with spool. also ray pampenas posts on 3si are a gold mine.
i looked over my inj flow sheet and noticed they only flow 400cc max, son of a...im now planning on stepping up to 550cc inj for more timing & my 600cc/min meth nozzle.
the supra pump works great, AFRs are rock solid. AFPR totally unnecessary as you can tune out the idle overrun.
keep a close eye/nose over your oil during tuning. slightest hint of gas change the oil. plugs also tell a good story too on the combustion.

afterwards i brought her home for inspection. getting some wierd screeching noise every now and then, i think its the alternator bearing giving out. changed the oil and took a sample to send to blackstone for analysis. checked around down there and found my rear turbo oil return line leaking onto my downpipe. gotta pull it off and rtv the threads. also found my tcase spewing more fluid through its breather. checked level and was fine. gonna keep an eye on it. fingers crossed for good weather this friday

If it doesn't work, I have a engine that will put you in the 10's
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Old 09-28-11, 01:03 AM   #63
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If it doesn't work, I have a engine that will put you in the 10's
i would if i could afford it lol
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Old 09-28-11, 01:31 AM   #64
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I think it also has to do with building your own motor, not saying anything wrong with yours, it just feels better when built not bought!
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Old 10-01-11, 02:21 AM   #65
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completely agree mallozzi.


so just got back from the track. not happy with the results.

only got 3 runs in before calling it quits due to detonation. best of the night 13.18@104 1.9 60' with ~20 knock count! this is at 13psi. was really hoping to up the boost to break into mid 12s by the end of the night but no luck.

could not shake the knock off all night, have no idea wtf is going on. on the street i can do a clean 3rd gear pull 0 knock but for some reason i kept hitting 15+ counts none stop. even afr of 10.2 didnt clear it. stock clutch held fine though funny enough.
my last run i spun the front tires like no tomorrow from the car squating and did a 2.2sec 60' -_-'. its pretty evident too, car pulls like crazy then knock kicks in and cuts timing and the car just falls flat on its face.

anyways im reviewing my logs right now and trying to figure this out. couple thoughts are: physical timing might be off or cam tooth, plugs too hot, not enough meth, bearing s might be on their way out

any advice would be welcomed
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Old 10-06-11, 09:45 PM   #66
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im going to be gone for about a month so the car will be sitting. ill get back to wrenching/tuning when i get back.
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Old 10-07-11, 10:22 AM   #67
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im going to be gone for about a month so the car will be sitting. ill get back to wrenching/tuning when i get back.
You should go with my TD05! It doesn't matter how big the TD04 are you are still creating friction and that is heat. it's nice to have presure, but to much presure create more hot air. With the TD05 setup you get the pesure, but most important, the volume. The more you put in, more need to come out. This applies to every one out there trying to make more power. Yes you all increase your compressor side, but you are limited by the turbine side!!!
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Old 11-01-11, 02:16 AM   #68
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got my oil analysis report. results are...not reassuring. the oil itself is good, but my results are not.



iron and especially copper are high. gonna send them another sample in about 1000km to see if the copper wear still high, if so looks like time to get a new short block before this one spins a bearing.
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Old 11-01-11, 03:00 PM   #69
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im sure my numbers would be similar. gto doesnt seem to be knocking as much these days, but its sure nice to have a 2nd car haha. ill be back on the mainland nov 8th for reading break if you want to meet up or anything
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yea man definitely come out, go for a drink and catch up. im starting to look for a forged crank block to get ready or even another gto? wanna sell me yours lol
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yea man definitely come out, go for a drink and catch up. im starting to look for a forged crank block to get ready or even another gto? wanna sell me yours lol

sounds great, ill let you know when im back. haha maybe, we'll talk
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so a small update. installed a scanmaster for live non-stop monitoring of knock (thanks to fou for the deal). will be hooking up my lc1 to it as well when i have some time.

swapped out my 315cc/min meth nozzle for a 630cc/min and almost all my knock has been wiped out. still getting 1 or 2 count here and there but looks good. car pulls really clean. clutch burning after every pull i think its about time.
doing WOT pulls in 3rd 0 knock, doing 1-2-3 pull track style i get some still have to figure it out.

tuned for 16psi, 10.1-2 afr, factory "lowered" timing map [will reset ecu to the the optimal one]. changed my safc lo/hi point to 35/55. hoping to lean it out to around 11.5 and turn it up past 20psi.

just pressed for time/weather currently. will keep at it.

edit: also waiting on my second oil report. will do another one in about 1000km again to see where i stand.
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so a small update. installed a scanmaster for live non-stop monitoring of knock (thanks to fou for the deal). will be hooking up my lc1 to it as well when i have some time.

swapped out my 315cc/min meth nozzle for a 630cc/min and almost all my knock has been wiped out. still getting 1 or 2 count here and there but looks good. car pulls really clean. clutch burning after every pull i think its about time.
doing WOT pulls in 3rd 0 knock, doing 1-2-3 pull track style i get some still have to figure it out.

tuned for 16psi, 10.1-2 afr, factory "lowered" timing map [will reset ecu to the the optimal one]. changed my safc lo/hi point to 35/55. hoping to lean it out to around 11.5 and turn it up past 20psi.

just pressed for time/weather currently. will keep at it.

good stuff. ill be home on the 19th
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it was dry this afternoon so went for another tuning session, happy with the power results so far.

started with 363awhp@5500 and tweaked corrections here and there and ended with 402awhp@5500 [aborted run due to space].
i would like to add another 50whp from 4 till redline and ill be done.

car pulls really nice now. still getting a couple knock counts that im trying to iron out (<4). i cant seem to lean it out where i want to without knock coming back in, especially in the lower end or transitioning to WOT. gonna start the clutch swap tomorrow.

and just a side note on the safcI, it sucks when the knock is in between the ne points and you have to adjust both to get to the middle one good. if it was a safcII with more points this would be a lot smoother/easier. get the II if you can instead of the I.
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it was dry this afternoon so went for another tuning session, happy with the power results so far.

started with 363awhp@5500 and tweaked corrections here and there and ended with 402awhp@5500 [aborted run due to space].
i would like to add another 50whp from 4 till redline and ill be done.

car pulls really nice now. still getting a couple knock counts that im trying to iron out (<4). i cant seem to lean it out where i want to without knock coming back in, especially in the lower end or transitioning to WOT. gonna start the clutch swap tomorrow.

and just a side note on the safcI, it sucks when the knock is in between the ne points and you have to adjust both to get to the middle one good. if it was a safcII with more points this would be a lot smoother/easier. get the II if you can instead of the I.


Good to know! My goal is 400AWHP with my 15G's. What else are you using on this? (intake,exhaust, injectors, fuel pump, etc)
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